INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the February 5, 2004 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison) Steve Bellovin / AT&T Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA) Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC David Kessens / Nokia Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA) MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the January 22, 2004 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved Since the January 22, 2004 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-freed-mime-p4-04.txt (BCP) o draft-ietf-xmpp-core-22.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ipsec-ciph-aes-ccm-05.txt (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions NONE 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o The Secretariat will post its current procedures for processing IPR disclosures on the internal IESG Web page. o Steve Bellovin to write a revised version of the proposed revision of the IESG's guidelines for spam control on IETF mailing lists. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft". o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB. o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option. o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting. o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue. o Thomas Narten and Ted Hardie to discuss IANA considerations. o Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat will send to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave the decision on publishing draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp to the RFC Editor. o Joyce Reynolds to provide input from the RFC Editor about the RFC Editor's view of the IESG's role in review of RFC Editor submissions. o Bert Wijnen to work with Leslie Daigle and Scott Bradner on a description of the purpose of and procedures for the new-work mailing list. NEW: o Steve Bellovin to prepare input for a discussion of the relation between the IESG and the RFC Editor at the Seoul IETF Meeting. o Ted Hardie to write up a procedure based on the W3C's communication to the IESG regarding MIME Part 4 update. o Thomas Narten to suggest an updated charter for the PPPEXT working Group that describes it as a standard maintenance group. o Bert Wijnen, Thomas Narten, and David Kessens to work with David Meyer to clarify details on a particular IANA request and see if there are any other appropriate action items. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-secsh-dh-group-exchange-04.txt - 1 of 3 Diffie-Hellman Group Exchange for the SSH Transport Layer Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-ospf-2547-dnbit-03.txt - 2 of 3 Using an LSA Options Bit to Prevent Looping in BGP/MPLS IP VPNs (Proposed Standard) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-smime-pss-03.txt - 3 of 3 Use of the PSS Signature Algorithm in CMS (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document was approved by the IESG pending a possible RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Russ Housley. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note (if applicable). 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-xmpp-im-21.txt - 1 of 1 Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Instant Messaging and Presence (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-mealling-uuid-urn-02.txt - 1 of 1 A UUID URN Namespace (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Bill Fenner, Ned Freed, Russ Housley, Thomas Narten, and Jon Peterson.* 2.2.2 Returning Item o draft-klyne-msghdr-registry-07.txt - 1 of 2 Registration procedures for message header fields (BCP) Token: Ned Freed The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Jon Peterson.* o draft-jones-opsec-03.txt - 2 of 2 Operational Security Requirements for IP Network Infrastructure (BCP) Token: Steve Bellovin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Ted Hardie, Russ Housley, David Kessens, Allison Mankin, Bert Wijnen, and Alex Zinin.* 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-midcom-semantics-07.txt - 1 of 9 MIDCOM Protocol Semantics (Informational) Token: Jon Peterson The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestand and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-isis-gmpls-extensions-19.txt - 2 of 9 IS-IS Extensions in Support of Generalized MPLS (Informational) Token: Alex Zinin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-rddp-problem-statement-03.txt - 3 of 9 RDMA over IP Problem Statement (Informational) Token: Jon Peterson The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand.* o draft-ietf-rddp-arch-04.txt - 4 of 9 The Architecture of Direct Data Placement (DDP)And Remote Direct Memory Access (RDMA)On Internet Protocols (Informational) Token: Jon Peterson The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-opes-iab-04.txt - 5 of 9 OPES Treatment of IAB Considerations (Informational) Token: Ned Freed The document was deferred to the next teleconference (02/19/2004) by Ted Hardie. o draft-ietf-rmt-flute-07.txt - 6 of 9 FLUTE - File Delivery over Unidirectional Transport (Experimental) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-opes-end-comm-06.txt - 7 of 9 OPES entities and end points communication (Informational) Token: Ned Freed The document was deferred to the next teleconference (02/19/2004) by Steve Bellovin. o draft-ietf-isis-restart-05.txt - 8 of 9 Restart signaling for IS-IS (Informational) Token: Alex Zinin The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o Two-document ballot: - 9 of 9 - draft-ietf-avt-ilbc-codec-04.txt Internet Low Bit Rate Codec (Experimental) - draft-ietf-avt-rtp-ilbc-04.txt RTP Payload Format for iLBC Speech (Experimental) Token: Allison Mankin These documents remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* 3.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-l3vpn-generic-reqts-02.txt - 1 of 4 Generic Requirements for Provider Provisioned Virtual Private Networks (Informational) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* o draft-ietf-forces-framework-13.txt - 2 of 4 Forwarding and Control Element Separation (ForCES) Framework (Informational) Token: Alex Zinin The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-bgmp-spec-06.txt - 3 of 4 Border Gateway Multicast Protocol (BGMP): Protocol Specification (Informational) Token: Alex Zinin The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-problem-issue-statement-05.txt - 4 of 4 IETF Problem Statement (Informational) Token: Harald Alvestrand The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-huston-ipv6-documentation-prefix-03.txt - 1 of 1 IPv6 Address Prefix reserved for Documentation (Informational) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten on behalf of the IAB.* 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-touch-ipsec-vpn-06.txt - 1 of 1 Use of IPsec Transport Mode for Dynamic Routing (Informational) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.* 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o New IETF Standards Track Discussion (newtrk) - 1 of 2 Token: Harald Alvestrand The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/19/2004). o Link-Enhancing Transport Intermediary Communication (letic) - 2 of 2 Token: Jon Peterson The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/19/2004). 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Improved Cross-Area Review (icar) - 1 of 4 Token: Harald Alvestrand The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the names of the working group chairs from Harald Alvestrand. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming (mobike) - 2 of 4 Token: Steven Bellovin The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the names of the working group chairs from Steve Bellovin. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Detecting Network Attachment (dna) - 3 of 4 Token: Margaret Wasserman The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the name of the primary AD. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions (tcpm) - 4 of 4 Token: Jon Peterson The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending information about the working group email list from Jon Peterson. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review o Site Multihoming in IPv6 (multi6) - 1 of 1 Token: David Kessens The IESG decided not to move forward with the rechartering of this working group at this time. The Secretariat will take no action until directed to do so by the IESG. 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 the IESG's -- and IETF's -- role in RFC Editor documents (Steve Bellovin) This management issue was discussed. Action item: Steve Bellovin to prepare input for a discussion of the relation between the IESG and the RFC Editor at the Seoul IETF Meeting. 7.2 W3C use of procedures outlined in MIME Part 4 update. (Ted Hardie) This management issue was discussed. Action item: Ted Hardie to write up a procedure based on the W3C's communication to the IESG regarding MIME Part 4 update. 7.3 Review of working groups that have milestones in 1999 (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was discussed. Action item: Thomas Narten to suggest an updated charter for the PPPEXT working Group that describes it as a standard maintenance group. 7.4 Non-IESG PROTO Team members to sit in on the next IESG Teleconference Call (Allison Mankin) This management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to tentatively invite the three non-IESG PROTO Team members to sit in on the next IESG Teleconference (02/19/2004). 7.5 IANA Expert Dave Meyer and Liability Insurance (Bill Fenner) This management issue was discussed. Action item: Bert Wijnen, Thomas Narten, and David Kessens to work with David Meyer to clarify details on a particular IANA request and see if there are any other appropriate action items. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.