IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING December 7th, 1992 Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. This material is based on work supported by the National Science Foundation under Grant No.NCR 8820945. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. ATTENDEES --------- Almquist, Philip / Consultant Borman, David / Cray Research Crocker, Dave / TBO Coya, Steve / CNRI Davin, Chuck / Bellcore Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / SUN Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Knowles, Stev / FTP Software Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI Regrets Crocker, Steve / TIS Reynolds, Joyce / ISI AGENDA ------- 1) Administrivia o Approval of the Minutes November 9th, November 10th, November 20th, November 30th, December 2nd 2) Protocol Actions o Token Ring MIB o Identity Protocol/ Ident MIB o FTP/FTAM Gateway o MTU Discovery o DS1 MIB /DS3 MIB o IP Addressing Guidelines 3) Technical Management o Approval of IESG Re-Organization o IESG review of ROAD proposals o SUN NFS/RPC MINUTES ------- 1) Administrivia o Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the teleconferences on November 9th, November 10th, November 30th and December 2nd as well as the minutes of the meeting of November 20th held during the IETF plenary session in Washington D.C. were approved. 2) Protocol Actions In email prior to this meeting, the IESG agreed that balloting will be used in conjunction with the regular IESG meetings to approve protocol actions. Presence at an IESG meeting without raising an objection is considered a "yes" vote. o Token Ring MIB The Token Ring MIB waiting for the completion of a survey of current implementations before being moved to Draft Standard. o Identity Protocol and Ident MIB The IESG approved the elevation of the Identity Protocol and the Ident MIB to Proposed Standard. The IESG had previously asked for a revision to the protocol to reflect the current understanding of character handling and this change was made and approved by the Working Group. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a protocol action notice to the RFC Editor and the IETF elevating the Identity protocol and the Ident MIB to Proposed Standard. o FTP/FTAM Gateway Specification The IESG has issued a last call for the FTP/FTAM gateway specification and received initial comments on the suitability of this specification for standardization. The comments primarily addressed the small constituency for the protocol and the need for change control and evolution. The IESG noted that there are three implementations, one of them of an earlier version and that although small, the need for the gateways will cause them to be implemented. The specification did not originate from a Working Group but was reviewed by the OSI General Working Group when it existed and was reviewed again at the Washington DC plenary meeting in a BOF. The IESG agreed to continue with the last call for Proposed Standard. ACTION: Hobby -- Research and prepare a technical summary of the FTP/FTAM Gateway protocol and a report on the constituency of the protocol. o MTU Discovery RFC 1191, Path MTU Discovery has expired its two years in grade as a Proposed Standard. The protocol is widely implemented but its operational usage is limited by the existence of routers that suppress ICMP messages. (to work around an old 4.2 BSD bug) The IESG discussed whether this was such a significant problem that the protocol should be abandoned and agreed that it was not. The 4.2 BSD behavior in the face of unrecognized ICMP messages is non-conforming and should not be an obstacle to further evolution of the Internet. (Implemented by Sun, Cray, and FTP Software among others) ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With text from Stev Knowles outlining the current operational experience, send a last call for the elevation of MTU Discovery to Draft Standard. o DS1 MIB/ DS3 MIB A bug is the DS1 and DS3 MIB specifications has been found which will be corrected in the next version of the MIBs. To send a clear signal that these should not be implemented, the Working Group has requested that these documents be moved to historic. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call to the IETF requesting comments on the movement of DS1 and DS3 MIBS to historic. o IP Addressing The IP Addressing paper submitted to the IESG for Proposed Standard has been split into two documents. A section by Elise Gerich has been published as RFC 1366, "Guidelines for Management of IP Address Space" and the remainder has been reposted as an Internet Draft. The Authors have asked that the documents progressed. The IESG discussed the document and agreed that the Internet Draft "Guidelines for IP Address Allocation" should be published as an Informational RFC. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After getting comments from Yackov, send a document action to the RFC Editor and IETF for the IP Addressing Guidelines to Informational mentioning the original submission for Proposed Standard. Technical Management Issues o Approval of IESG Re-Organization The IESG discussed and approved the two-phase re-alignment of IESG Areas discussed at the December 2nd special teleconference. ACTION: Gross -- Announce the IESG re-organization to the IETF mailing list. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Update the secretariat records to reflect the new IESG structure. o IP Version 7 Protocol Review The IESG recognizes that a comprehensive review of the ROAD protocols is not likely to be completed by December 15th as hoped for in the IETF Plenary. To discuss the course of action a single topic teleconference was planned. The date is to be announced. ACTION: Coya -- Set up a IESG Teleconference to discuss the ROAD Proposals and planning. o Sun NFS and RPC Sun has expressed an interest to the IESG to move NFS and RPC into the IETF standards process. They recognize that this will entail giving change control to the IETF. The IESG discussed (briefly) this proposal and agreed to it enthusiastically. The standardization of NFS and RPC has been an goal for several years. ACTION: Hobby -- Explore with SUN the details of giving change control to the IETF for standardizing NFS and RPC. Appendix - Summary of Action Items ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a protocol action notice to the RFC Editor and the IETF elevating the Identity protocol and the Ident MIB to Proposed Standard. ACTION: Hobby -- Research and prepare a technical summary of the FTP/FTAM gateway protocol and a report on the constituency of the protocol. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With text from Stev Knowles outlining the current operational experience, send a last call for the elevation of MTU Discovery to Draft Standard. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call to the IETF requesting comments on the movement of DS1 and DS3 MIBS to historic. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a document action to the RFC Editor and IETF for the IP Addressing Guidelines to Informational. Make mention of the original submission for Proposed Standard and send the document to Yackov for comments before sending. ACTION: Gross -- Announce the IESG re-organization to the IETF mailing list. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Update the secretariat records to reflect the new IESG structure. ACTION: Coya -- Set up a IESG Teleconference to discuss the ROAD Proposals and planning. ACTION: Hobby -- Explore with SUN the details of giving change control to the IETF for standardizing NFS and RPC.